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Archive Generated December 23rd, 2018
Who does netplay with emulators?
Author Posted on 2016/12/27
#2672
CosmicEternity Just wondering, maybe we could set up a few matches here and there with the DSHack community, once every while or so over netplay. Though I understand most people here have things like NNID and PSN, it's always nice to play the classics, and netplay is really fun once you have it all set up and running.

I first got into netplay a few days ago thanks to the Kaillera-enabled modification of Project64 - Project64k, and have played a few MK64 matches with LKRJC, Night and EzioisAwesome56. I also have ZSNES 1.36 set up for netplay, I played almost all courses of SMK with Zelinon, which was with little lag and a fun experience indeed. I've never had friends to play the games with on their actual systems, or such, so it's great for me to experience the multiplayer modes of the games with the netplay functions of emulators. ^^

Anyone else do netplay and who wants to organise, I don't know, a 4-player battle on Mario Kart 64, or a game on Mario Party (great if we want to split the staff team jk), for example? It'd be pretty fun IMO. :)
Author Posted on 2017/01/12
#2833
★MαsterDιzzy It can be a nice thing to play on NetPlay servers with emulators that support the Kaillera system ! But if you want to play on N64 games online against me, I would prefer to use Mupen64++ because, y'know... No desync, saving games online, all that stuff :P
Author Posted on 2017/01/12
#2834
MKGirlism I've never done NetPlay myself, but I'm quite interested to try it out.
Most of my games are Japanese, and I'm using Linux as my OS, if that makes a difference.
Author Posted on 2017/01/13
#2835
★MαsterDιzzy
I've never done NetPlay myself, but I'm quite interested to try it out.
Most of my games are Japanese, and I'm using Linux as my OS, if that makes a difference.


Actually, if you play on NetPlay servers and you try to play against other people, it's better to use NTSC roms because :
- They are running at 60 Hz (PAL roms are running at 50 Hz).
- They are the most commonly used kind of roms !
- More people understand english and/or french than japanese !

Ooh and Linux is not as much supported by emulators than Windows and OSx.
Author Posted on 2017/01/13
#2836
MKGirlism Just in case you didn't know, Japanese ROMs are NTSC, "PAL" only applies to European and Australian games (geek note: France = SECAM, not PAL, but there's almost no difference).
And I actually only use the ROMs I have dumped myself (with an exception to the N64, because I have no way to dump N64 games).

Linux does support Emulators, not nearly as many as Windows, but there are quite some.
Mupen64, Dolphin, mGBA, Nestopia, Zsnes, DeSmuME, etc. being just a few examples.
Additionally, they're most likely way easier to install, since you only need to search for one in the Repositories, and click "Install".
Author Posted on 2017/01/13
#2837
★MαsterDιzzy
Just in case you didn't know, Japanese ROMs are NTSC, "PAL" only applies to European and Australian games (geek note: France = SECAM, not PAL, but there's almost no difference).
And I actually only use the ROMs I have dumped myself (with an exception to the N64, because I have no way to dump N64 games).

Linux does support Emulators, not nearly as many as Windows, but there are quite some.
Mupen64, Dolphin, mGBA, Nestopia, Zsnes, DeSmuME, etc. being just a few examples.
Additionally, they're most likely way easier to install, since you only need to search for one in the Repositories, and click "Install".


Actually, you're right, japanese N64 roms are technically NTSC roms (You can even boot japanese N64 games in an north-american N64)

But if we make a comparison between every kind of N64 color signals shall we ? :P

NTSC aka. north-american roms :
Run the games at 60 Hz (30 FPS on real hardware, 60 FPS on emulator) and always support english (sometimes, they support french too).

NTSC-J aka. japanese roms (alt. name : JAP or JP) :
Basically the same thing than NTSC roms, but these roms are not censored and are only in japanese.

PAL aka. european and australian roms :
Run the games at 50 Hz (25 FPS on real hardware, 50 FPS on emulator) and always support english, french and german (and even other languages sometimes). Even if PAL roms are much more slower than NTSC roms, it should be noticed that they have a much better video quality and are generally much more optimized than NTSC roms due to the fact that the N64 was never really made to support 60 Hz but has an architecture that makes the system support really nicely 50 Hz instead of 60 Hz.

PAL-M aka brazilian roms :
Very similar if we compare PAL-M roms with PAL roms. It should be noticed that even if brazilian roms are using the same color signal than PAL roms, in actual gameplay, they are much more similar to NTSC roms than the PAL ones !

SECAM aka. french roms :
Same thing than PAL roms, but the SECAM color signal grants a much better video quality if compared to PAL roms. The same PAL roms who are reputed to have a much better video quality than NTSC !

So... if you want to play N64 roms on an emulator, because the video quality upgrades granted by PAL and SECAM roms doesn't have any effect on an emulator, it's a much better idea to play NTSC N64 roms, offline or online with the NetPlay system !

Ooh and about the emulators available on Linux, it's a sure thing that some pretty nice emulator are working on Linux, sometimes much better that their Windows/OSX counterparts. But when it comes to emulator that support NetPlay, actually, i don't really know if Linux are supporting a lot these emulators or not.
Author Posted on 2017/01/14
#2841
CosmicEternity
It can be a nice thing to play on NetPlay servers with emulators that support the Kaillera system ! But if you want to play on N64 games online against me, I would prefer to use Mupen64++ because, y'know... No desync, saving games online, all that stuff :P

Hey, since you're from France, we won't have that bad of lag between each other if we do Netplay on Kaillera. I have Mupen64++ and have used that one more recently than Project64k after a desync happened one time. If we also get the MOD for SM64 multiplayer that would be fun, though I'd play MK64 if you want some time. Just got to recover my ROM set for GoodN64, because I lost it when I had to format my hard drive.
Author Posted on 2017/01/14
#2842
★MαsterDιzzy
Hey, since you're from France, we won't have that bad of lag between each other if we do Netplay on Kaillera. I have Mupen64++ and have used that one more recently than Project64k after a desync happened one time. If we also get the MOD for SM64 multiplayer that would be fun, though I'd play MK64 if you want some time. Just got to recover my ROM set for GoodN64, because I lost it when I had to format my hard drive.


Actually, i have MK64 and SM64 Multiplayer 1.3 !
I have a ton of other roms too so if you want to play other games, actually, we can !

Author Posted on 2017/01/20
#2863
SGC Yellow I've actually been wanting to try NetPlay on Dolphin, mostly with Double Dash, I think NetPlay is quite an interesting concept for this.
Author Posted on 2017/01/20
#2864
Y0shimario0 It would be cool to play it with people from here, as i do play with netplay enebled emulators
Author Posted on 2017/01/23
#2871
CosmicEternity If this actually becomes a thing it'd be nice to host a kaillera server for the community itself, although we'd need to get a server that's in a good position for the users. I know how to set up a kaillera server using emulinker on a home PC.